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Hunting with an AR-15
« on: September 12, 2011, 05:55:03 PM »
I was wondering if any of yall know what is legal when using this rifle for hunting. I know I have to have a 5 round mag, but do I have to trade my collapsible stock for a fixed A1/A2 type stock? Would there only be a problem for deer hunting?

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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 05:26:33 AM »
Alabama law only says it has to be a center-fire rifle with mushrooming ammunition. And even that requirement only holds for deer.

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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 05:37:15 AM »
Lots of stories abound. To cover your butt, and your pocketbook.

Call Jennifer at State Conservation Dept. at 334-242-3468, and she'll hook you up with somebody who you would meet in the woods!

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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 05:44:18 AM »
And if you hunt on WMA land, apparently they all get to make their own extra regulations, so you'd probably need to talk to someone at the management area as well.


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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 08:38:36 AM »
If you read the "legal arms and ammo for hunting " section of the AL hunting and fishing digest it it would suggest that your AR with 30+ round mag and tactical stock is fine as long as its not silenced or fully automatic with no lights, lasers, or night vision is perfectly suitable for deer hunting. That's under GENERAL prohibitions of course. Im voting with RTC HOSS on this one.
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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 08:53:30 AM »
It's hunting during the day, and after dark, it's self defense...  (Just Kidding.)
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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 09:06:39 AM »
Just spoke with a State Game Warden and he says " if you're hunting private owned land the 30 + rounds are fine , in management areas 10 rounds or less, the stock makes no difference. " Keep in mind I spoke to him in a parking lot,  he may not be the same guy you meet in the woods.
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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2011, 01:24:37 PM »
Wow!  In fla your limited to 5 rounds.

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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2011, 01:29:41 PM »
Last time I hunted (yeah, it was waaaay back in th' day), I had a 20 round clip in my AR-15, sitting in a stand in a huge Oak tree with one clearing over 450 yards to my South.....

Of course, the deer ran full bore right under my tree! (no long shot that day)

Fired one shot, deer dropped in about 30 feet; mighta had that much momentum?

But I don't know about today's rules. That was 1986. hehehehehe Ain't been hunting since.
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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2011, 05:48:54 PM »
From last year's Regulation Book.  (the new one probably won't be available until the season is well under way)


From this link:
http://www.outdooralabama.com/hunting/regulations/2010-11%20Complete%20Reg%20Book%20for%20website%20-%20FINAL%20.pdf

ALABAMA REGULATIONS 2010-2011
GAME, FISH, AND FUR BEARING ANIMALS


page 27

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220-2-.02 Legal Arms, Ammunition, and Methods for Hunting
(1) GENERAL PROHIBITIONS:
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to use any method or have
in their possession any weapon or ammunition contrary to this
regulation while hunting or attempting to hunt game birds and
animals or other species provided for herein unless expressly
provided for by duly enacted laws of the State of Alabama.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person to refuse to submit
firearms and ammunition or any device, instrument or
accessory used in hunting to Conservation Officers for
inspection.
(c) It shall be unlawful for any person to hunt with a bow or gun
that has a light source attached that is capable of casting a
beam of light (including a laser sight) forward of said bow or
gun or to possess such a light source adapted for attachment
to said bow or gun while hunting.
(d) It shall be unlawful to possess any equipment that uses
electronics to increase the ability to see in the dark (night
vision equipment) while hunting any species of wildlife, both
protected or unprotected species.
(e) It shall be unlawful to possess fully automatic firearms or
silenced firearms while hunting any species of wildlife.

(2) DEER:
WHEN AND WHERE DOG OR STALK HUNTING IS
ALLOWED
 Rifles using centerfire, mushrooming ammunition.
 Shotguns, 10 gauge or smaller using buckshot, slugs, or
single round ball.
 Muzzle-loaders and Black Powder Handguns--.40 caliber
or larger, provided further it shall be illegal to possess
other firearms while hunting with muzzleloaders during
the special muzzleloader season.
 Long bows, compound bows, or crossbows.
 Handguns or pistols using centerfire, mushrooming
ammunition.
WHEN AND WHERE STALK HUNTING ONLY IS ALLOWED
 Same as above, except slugs or single round ball only
may be used in shotguns.


page 81

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220-2-.55 Wildlife Management Areas, Community Hunting Areas,
Public Hunting Areas, and Refuges of Alabama
(1) It shall be unlawful on ALL WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREAS,
COMMUNITY HUNTING AREAS, PUBLIC HUNTING AREAS,
AND REFUGE AREAS, all of which are established as "wildlife
management areas" by Rule 220-2-.22 and all of which are hereinafter
sometimes collectively referred to herein as "AREAS" or "AREA": ...
... (f) To have in possession any fully automatic rifle or any firearms,
ammunition or bow and arrow except as described below:
1. DEER: Stalk Hunts - Centerfire rifles that have been plugged
or are otherwise incapable of holding more than 11 cartridges
and using mushrooming and/or expanding type ammunition,
shotguns using slugs or single round balls, muzzle loading
firearms .40 caliber or larger, or centerfire handguns with a
minimum 4 inch barrel length using mushrooming and/or
expanding type ammunition. All applicable laws regarding
possessing and carrying handguns must be followed.

If you hunt lands other than privately owned or public lands or wildlife management areas, the rules may be different.  It's a pain to try to keep up with them all.

Good hunting,
Eddie

« Last Edit: September 13, 2011, 06:06:16 PM by 49er »

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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2011, 05:58:05 PM »
Just spoke with a State Game Warden and he says " if you're hunting private owned land the 30 + rounds are fine , in management areas 10 rounds or less, the stock makes no difference. " Keep in mind I spoke to him in a parking lot,  he may not be the same guy you meet in the woods.

Don't ever rely on a game warden's word about the laws and regulations.  Read them for yourself.  They are supposed to furnish all laws and regulations in pamphlet form for general distribution, but they don't.  Ask for them anyhow.  The Hunter's Digest tells you what to refer to as the final authority in the Introduction.

Refer to the WMA rule I posted above from the Regulation Book.  The way I read it, the game warden's answer may be wrong, depending upon if he was referring to only those rounds in the magazine.  If so, an additional round would be allowed in the chamber for a total of 11 rounds.

That's not uncommon.   The laws and rules are so numerous and conflicting that some game warden's can't even keep up with them all.


The following statement on page 14 of the Regulation Book is a lie.  There is no separate pamphlet available for general distribution containing the game and fish laws even though the law requires it.  Ask for it anyhow.  I have asked several times.

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14
. . . THE COMMISSIONER . . . SHALL PUBLISH IN PAMPHLET
FORM FOR GENERAL DISTRIBUTION ALL LAWS TOGETHER WITH
SUCH RULES AND REGULATIONS RELATING TO GAME, BIRDS,
FISH, FURBEARERS, SEAFOODS AND OTHER MATTERS OVER
WHICH SUCH COMMISSIONER . . . HAS AUTHORITY OR
SUPERVISION. SUCH PAMPHLET SO PUBLISHED SHALL BE
RECEIVED IN EVIDENCE WITHOUT FURTHER PROOF OF SUCH
RULES AND REGULATIONS IN ANY COURT OF THIS STATE . . . .
Code of Alabama 1975, Section 9-2-8
NOTE: For convenience, the Game and Fish Laws and the Game and Fish
Regulations are being published in separate pamphlets.
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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2011, 06:20:54 PM »
It's hunting during the day, and after dark, it's self defense...  (Just Kidding.)
down this way after dark is hunting . three requirements Centerfire rifle 60 watt lightbulb and sack of corn

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Re: Hunting with an AR-15
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2011, 08:56:31 AM »
just record its coming at me im afrade for my life have to defend myself fired warnibg shot and it jumped in front of it  :haha
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